50 races and I have to pick at least 17 winners

[Mike T.]

A friend of mine and I got into a debate about public handicappers. The end result was I was told I couldn't pick 50 or more winners in 100 races. I informed him the best only win about 33%. But since I'm arrogant (more like stupid) and can't back down from a challenge I would try to pick winners from 100races at a 33% rate or more. He picked the races but had trouble finding 100 free PP's (I told him so) so the 100 races was eventually reduced to 50. So with selections for 50 races, here goes nothing.

1, Arlington Race 3 - 1 The Mizzus
2, Arlington Race 6 - 5 Zz's For The Kids
3, Arlington Race 8 - 8 Vocabulary
4, Arlington Race 11 - 7 Boonesborough
5, Assiniboia Race 5 - 7 Ms. Bowling
6, Assiniboia Race 7 - 8 Linas Legacy
7, Belmont Race 1 - 8 Silver Prospector
8, Belmont Race 2 - 3 Dagnabit
9. Belmont Race 4 - 4 Certifiably Royal
10, Belmont Race 5 - 8 Don't Fooli Houli
11, Belmont Race 6 - 5 Chief Operator
12, Belmont Race 7 - 3 Beyond The Trees
13, Belmont Race 8 - 5 Hold That Prospect
14, Belmont Race 9 - 3 Mohegan Sky
15, Belmont Race 10 - ae14 Sage Chapel
16, Calder Race 7 - 9 Inculto
17, Calder Race 9 - 6 Sweetsouthernqueen
18, Calder Race 11 - 5 Pender's Tune
19, Canterbury Race 5 - 7 Dawn Raider
20, Canterbury Race 7 - 1 Aza
21, Charles Town Race 5 - ae11 Ivantsoff
22, Churchill Downs Race 1 - 4 Citystepper
23, Churchill Downs Race 4 - 3 Bully For You
24, Churchill Downs Race 5 - 2 Beach Commander
25, Churchill Downs Race 6 - 4 Lord Dubai
26, Churchill Downs Race 8 - 8 Lion's Circle
27, Churchill Downs Race 11 - 7 Bk's Clearanceisle
28, Colonial Race 8 - 2 Ghost Dancing
29, Delaware Race 2 - 2 Messiah
30, Delaware Race 5 - 3 Battle Of Britain
31, Delaware Race 6 - 2 Andrea's Pearl
32, Delaware Race 7 - 3 Lucky Encounter
33, Emerald Downs Race 5 - 5 Dana's Beau
34, Emerald Downs Race 7 - 7 Westsideclyde
35, Finger Lakes Race 3 - 6 Sugar Slam
36, Finger Lakes Race 3 - 2 Depose The Cat
37, Finger Lakes Race 8 - 8 Wishing Wishes
38, Fort Erie Race 1 - 6 Clever Darley
39, Hastings Race 1 - 5 Kalua On The Rocks
40, Hollywood Race 1 - 6 Masterful Miss
41, Hollywood Race 2 - 6 Gabby's Golden Gal
42, Hollywood Race 3 - 2 Matty's G Force
43, Hollywood Race 4 - 5 Carona Time
44, Hollywood Race 6 - 1 Wings Of An Angel
45, Hollywood Race 7 - 4 Big Red Tate
46, Hollywood Race 9 - 5 Papa Nino
47, Lone Star Race 2 - 2 Regal Career
48, Lone Star Race 3 - 4 Billie Blue
49, Lone Star Race 5 - 1 Waupaca
50, Louisiana Downs Race 4 - 7 Jasons Jaxon

[Grindstone]

Hate to tell you this Mike, but since I am a public handicapper I feel the need to correct your starting position.

Public handicappers do not get to choose 50 races that they want to offer wagers on. They must offer a wager on the races they are paid to handicap. Even if they would ordinarily pass on the race. Right now I'm handicapping Arlington Park for the Tribune. I have to pick every race on the card, not just the ones I like.

I still hope you hit 33%, and if your freind lets you off the hook by doing so that is great. But public handicapping is a little bit harder than that. To prove the point I think you would have to let your friend pick the track and then you pick for the next 50 races in a row.

[stecan]

Hate to tell you this Mike, but since I am a public handicapper I feel the need to correct your starting position.

Public handicappers do not get to choose 50 races that they want to offer wagers on. They must offer a wager on the races they are paid to handicap. Even if they would ordinarily pass on the race. Right now I'm handicapping Arlington Park for the Tribune. I have to pick every race on the card, not just the ones I like.

I still hope you hit 33%, and if your freind lets you off the hook by doing so that is great. But public handicapping is a little bit harder than that. To prove the point I think you would have to let your friend pick the track and then you pick for the next 50 races in a row.

Grindstone,

How are you doing at Arlington? I'm sure it's a tough and time consuming job, but I would like to see you capping in the west. I think you would beat most of the ones out here. Keep up the great job!!!! I'm a believer in you!!!
Steve (stecan)

[lolo]

Winning percentage is meaningless.

[DRB]

agreed.


Winning percentage is meaningless.

[DRB]

Philadelphia Park
1 1 Romero
2 5 Evans Dream Boy
3 4 Tilt My Horns
4 6 Daddyslilangel
5 2 Jims Irish Eyes
6 3 Torridoro
7 7 Rayos Y Truenos
8 1 Saltish
9 10 Kitty Kitty Punch
Delaware Park
1 7 Masala T
2 2 Messiah
3 1 Crowninshield
4 2 Our Straight Flush
5 12 Dreamfull
6 8 Admiral Dumyat
7 4 Cynthias Missile
8 5 My Main Starr
Suffolk Downs
1 4 Vestments
2 7 Master Of Dance
3 10 Incredible Speed
4 1 Gracie Lu Freebush
5 4 Gemofanangel
6 2 Runnymedes Lad
7 3 Hubbard
8 2 Shetakesthecake
9 1 Connect Two
Monmouth Park
1 3 Lady Rocker
2 4 Our Wildcat
3 3 Silver Babe
4 4 Grand But One
5 3 Outpost
6 3 Squeakums
7 2 Not Acclaim
8 5 Proprietary
9 7 Cuba
10 4 Icy Atlantic
11 1 Playmelancholybaby
Colonial Downs
2 6 Final Authority
4 1 Creole Beat
5 5 Icy One O Four
6 2 Mediman
7 9 Chesapeak Affair
8 1 Humorlee
9 6 Diamond Victory
Belmont Park
1 8 Silver Prospector
2 1 Straight Story
3 2 Predate
4 3 Poronui
5 8 Don’t Fooli Houli
6 4 Texas Elegance
7 3 Beyond the Trees
8 8 JZ Warrior
9 10 Hollywood Left
10 8 Vladimira
Charlestown
1 4 Tripped Over
2 3 Campfire Burning
3 4 Cedar Slew
4 5 Cedar Tide
5 6 Political Reporter
6 11 Easter Express
7 3 Perfectly Golden
8 4 Koda
9 3 Storm N Tom
Fort Erie
1 4 Huxley
2 5 Twice A Princess
3 4 Cup Fever
4 6 Spanish Whiz
5 6 Touch Of Jazz
6 7 Cousin Pam
7 10 Ashlees Cat
8 4 Judiths Tiger
Finger Lakes
1 4 Aly Lup
2 6 Crying Poverty
3 3 Online Intime
4 3 Shawhan
5 6 Golden Vista
6 2 Depose The Cat
7 3 Karakorum Knockout
8 6 Smokin Sarah
9 8 Psychotic Colors
Woodbine
1 5 Armored
2 1 Cayman Peach
3 2 Short Shorts
4 4 Segal
5 2 Pleasant Mix
6 5 Forbidden Bite
7 7 Lucas Street
8 8 Siberian Rose
9 10 Canadien Music
10 9 Desire and Fire
Arlington Park
1 6 Buddha Pass
2 8 Wild Expectations
3 5 Return To Paradise
4 8 Waterloo Wonder
5 3 Cohn Blue
6 10 Alfred Kent
7 4 General Charley
8 4 Intensly Confused
9 5 Noon Day
10 6 Tylan
11 10 Kon Crete Kid
Assiniboia Downs
1 1 Sonias Dream
2 2 Pouco Moleque
3 1 Lean On Pete
4 2 Alpha Zeddy
5 5 Yankee Jazz
6 4 Southern Afleet
7 7 City Heat
8 7 Lookinforthesecret
9 10 Courtneys Crème
Cantebury Downs
1 3 Secret Fever
2 3 Glenngoffe
3 7 Somerset Wish
4 3 With Smoke
5 5 Green Lemon
6 5 Its All For Real
7 10 Final Prophecy
8 3 Block Party
Golden Gate
1 6 Wanted
2 6 Stormin War Dancer
3 6 Leslie Lill
4 1 Excess Temptations
5 3 Icing
6 6 Sporties Squeeze
7 1 Maidens Justice
8 5 Bradford
9 9 Look Whos Cookin
Hollywood Park
1 4 Gentle Gale
2 7 Glitter City
3 2 Mattys G Force
4 9 Roadside Rest
5 8 Warrens Adventure
6 3 Cuffed
7 5 Devoted Magic
8 3 Exuma
9 15 High Investment
Hastings Park
1 2 Archery
2 6 Affiniti One
3 1 Trippi Bree
4 6 Cruzlite
5 10 Afleet D
6 3 Lion Bill
7 1-1a entry
8 1 Chianti Dancer
9 3 Alpine Garden
10 6 Kokeeno
11 2 Silent Posse
Emerald Downs
1 4 Cheuanika
2 3 Spitfire Slew
3 7 Princess Hiawatha
4 4 Best Game Plan
5 1 Princess Loe
6 3 Wow Now
7 3 Nationhood
8 3 Ms Elly M
9 8 Honour The West
10 2 Princess Bardot
Mountaineer Park
1 2 Tougher Than Nails
2 1 Court Approval
3 7 Ak's Quest
4 8 Glitteressence
5 10 Hes A Criminal
6 3 You Hoo Yall
7 2 Sake Boy
8 4 Phone Empress
9 3 Lady Carol
10 8 Rashaud
Arapahoe Park
4 2 tank two
5 4 anything for gold
6 7 tagalong ellie
7 7 honey dare
8 1 bee a gem
Churchill Downs
1 1 mala mala son
2 5 primetime princess
3 6 bebe grand
4 1 pinpoint
5 3 peruvian hero
6 3 persian
7 2 choctaw bingo
8 6 posse cat
9 7 crack the cognac
10 4 nonesuch kiss
11 4 peace mon
Louisiana Downs
1 3 lasting the storm
2 6 house note
3 12 bertsgoldenmissile
4 1 key race
5 5 big chief
6 6 private flight
7 3 theodore ways
8 4 roll on roll on
9 8 salty but good
Yavapai Downs
2 1 whiskey and women
4 2 the great beaudini
6 3 satin creation
7 3 inthyfathershonor
9 7 saxmeamemo



Here are my 200................lol

[lolo]

This is meshugah.

[DRB]

Speaking Yiddish again?


This is meshugah.

[lolo]

I would pay Liam 42 cents if he would use the word meshugah in his analysis.

[DRB]

lol............42 cents eh.

Nice analysis on the Foster mate.

[Mike T.]

Hate to tell you this Mike, but since I am a public handicapper I feel the need to correct your starting position.

Public handicappers do not get to choose 50 races that they want to offer wagers on. They must offer a wager on the races they are paid to handicap. Even if they would ordinarily pass on the race. Right now I'm handicapping Arlington Park for the Tribune. I have to pick every race on the card, not just the ones I like.

I still hope you hit 33%, and if your freind lets you off the hook by doing so that is great. But public handicapping is a little bit harder than that. To prove the point I think you would have to let your friend pick the track and then you pick for the next 50 races in a row.

Thats exactly what we did. He picked the races and I selected who I thought would win. I just told him he would have a hard time getting 100 free PP's in a day

[spicytomato]

i always like to see a competition
between cappers

its very interesting to me
how they choose their winners


good luck

hope you get over the 33%
you are aiming for

[Grindstone]

Thats exactly what we did. He picked the races and I selected who I thought would win. I just told him he would have a hard time getting 100 free PP's in a day

Ah, not so clear from your first post. Very well then! Good luck!

[Mike T.]

Of the 50 races heres the results 10 wins, 13 places, 6 shows and 4 scratched. That's a 20% win rate not good but not bad for picking 50 races at 4:00 AM in less then half a hour, at least I think so

1, Arlington Race 3 - 1 The Mizzus 3rd.
2, Arlington Race 6 - 5 Zz's For The Kids Finished 10th out of 11
3, Arlington Race 8 - 8 Vocabulary Finished 4th out of 9
4, Arlington Race 11 - 7 Boonesborough Finished 11th out of 12
5, Assiniboia Race 5 - 7 Ms. Bowling 2nd
6, Assiniboia Race 7 - 8 Linas Legacy Won paid $12.80
7, Belmont Race 1 - 8 Silver Prospector Finished 5th out of 6
8, Belmont Race 2 - 3 Dagnabit won paid $5.70
9. Belmont Race 4 - 4 Certifiably Royal Finished 4th out of 9
10, Belmont Race 5 - 8 Don't Fooli Houli Scratched
11, Belmont Race 6 - 5 Chief Operator Finished 7th out of 8
12, Belmont Race 7 - 3 Beyond The Trees Scratched
13, Belmont Race 8 - 5 Hold That Prospect Finished 5th out of 7
14, Belmont Race 9 - 3 Mohegan Sky 3rd.
15, Belmont Race 10 - ae14 Sage Chapel Scratched
16, Calder Race 7 - 9 Inculto Finished 4th out of 10
17, Calder Race 9 - 6 Sweetsouthernqueen Scratched
18, Calder Race 11 - 5 Pender's Tune Finished 6th out of 7
19, Canterbury Race 5 - 7 Dawn Raider 2nd
20, Canterbury Race 7 - 1 Aza Won paid $12.00
21, Charles Town Race 5 - ae11 Ivantsoff 3rd.
22, Churchill Downs Race 1 - 4 Citystepper Won paid $7.00
23, Churchill Downs Race 4 - 3 Bully For You Won paid $4.80
24, Churchill Downs Race 5 - 2 Beach Commander Finished 6th out of 7
25, Churchill Downs Race 6 - 4 Lord Dubai 2nd
26, Churchill Downs Race 8 - 8 Lion's Circle Finished 8th out of 9
27, Churchill Downs Race 11 - 7 Bk's Clearanceisle Won paid $35.20
28, Colonial Race 8 - 2 Ghost Dancing Won paid $4.00
29, Delaware Race 2 - 2 Messiah 2nd
30, Delaware Race 5 - 3 Battle Of Britain 2nd
31, Delaware Race 6 - 2 Andrea's Pearl Finished 7th out of 9
32, Delaware Race 7 - 3 Lucky Encounter Finished 5th of of 9
33, Emerald Downs Race 5 - 5 Dana's Beau 2nd
34, Emerald Downs Race 7 - 7 Westsideclyde 2nd
35, Finger Lakes Race 3 - 6 Sugar Slam won paid $3.10
36, Finger Lakes Race 6 - 2 Depose The Cat 2nd
37, Finger Lakes Race 8 - 8 Wishing Wishes won paid $11.60
38, Fort Erie Race 1 - 6 Clever Darley finished 4th of of 7
39, Hastings Race 1 - 5 Kalua On The Rocks Finished 5th of of 6
40, Hollywood Race 1 - 6 Masterful Miss Finished 5th of of 6
41, Hollywood Race 2 - 6 Gabby's Golden Gal 3rd.
42, Hollywood Race 3 - 2 Matty's G Force 2nd
43, Hollywood Race 4 - 5 Carona Time 2nd
44, Hollywood Race 6 - 1 Wings Of An Angel 3rd.
45, Hollywood Race 7 - 4 Big Red Tate 2nd
46, Hollywood Race 9 - 5 Papa Nino finished 4th of of 11
47, Lone Star Race 2 - 2 Regal Career won paid $2.20
48, Lone Star Race 3 - 4 Billie Blue 2nd
49, Lone Star Race 5 - 1 Waupaca 2nd

50, Louisiana Downs Race 4 - 7 Jasons Jaxon 3rd.